In times of crisis, it is often tempting to bury your head in the sand. But precisely then, a proactive attitude is crucial. Elke Geraerts discusses how to achieve this in BNR’s Big Five alongside Diana Matroos.

The other guests in BNR’s Big Five on Positive Thinking were:

> Lucia Rijker, multiple world champion in boxing and kickboxing

> Ben Tiggelaar, behavioral scientist and leadership expert

> Stine Jensen, philosopher and writer

> Floris Alkemade, landscape architect and former Government Architect